tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post115957703791069727..comments2023-09-12T11:31:50.064-05:00Comments on Kingdom Come: Missional LeadershipPastor Rodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00219078094185232711noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post-24812811181811049442009-01-28T08:55:00.000-06:002009-01-28T08:55:00.000-06:00Thanks, Phylip.I'll have to check out that book.It...Thanks, Phylip.<BR/><BR/>I'll have to check out that book.<BR/><BR/>It has been more than two years since the original post. While my views have adjusted somewhat. I still would agree with pretty much everything I wrote.<BR/><BR/>It would be interesting to see what we would think in ten years.<BR/><BR/>God Bless,<BR/><BR/>RodPastor Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00219078094185232711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post-36128838209242497272009-01-28T07:11:00.000-06:002009-01-28T07:11:00.000-06:00Interesting article and comments.I think this whol...Interesting article and comments.<BR/>I think this whole area of post-modern leadership is still in a state of flux as we seek to "define" it through approaches that work v those that don't.<BR/><BR/>Alan Nelson's book "Spirituality & Leadership" made interesting reading on this topic recently.<BR/><BR/>Shall we re-visit this article in 10 years and comment then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post-1159877784311447932006-10-03T07:16:00.000-05:002006-10-03T07:16:00.000-05:00Good point Rod. I agree with you, mostly.I make a...Good point Rod. <BR/><BR/>I agree with you, mostly.<BR/><BR/>I make a distinction between growing as a leader, and "running a church like a business."<BR/><BR/>We should glean from many fields, and not automatically reject Biehl because he's "business" -- nor Nouwen because he's "Catholic."<BR/><BR/>Discernment is the key here.<BR/><BR/>Leadership practices are not the "chicken and rice" -- but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post-1159827072060899392006-10-02T17:11:00.000-05:002006-10-02T17:11:00.000-05:00Mark,While I do not have the experience of leading...Mark,<BR/><BR/>While I do not have the experience of leading an organization of the scope that you have, I would take a somewhat different stance.<BR/><BR/>I agree that we can learn a lot about human nature and interpersonal dynamics from the "business world." I also agree that there are certain principles that apply across the board in dealing with people. But I think that the moment we try to Pastor Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00219078094185232711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post-1159672346115246742006-09-30T22:12:00.000-05:002006-09-30T22:12:00.000-05:00I find it interesting that leaders who serve in a ...I find it interesting that leaders who serve in a "high demand" level of organizational responsibility (i,e, Biehl) have a different definition of leadership than the philosophers who've not shared that experience (i.e. Nouwin)<BR/><BR/>Nouwin has a lot to say about living and spiritual health -- and the integrity issues surrounding leadership. He is one of my favorite authors.<BR/><BR/>His Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post-1159632394426544042006-09-30T11:06:00.000-05:002006-09-30T11:06:00.000-05:00Jerry,I agree. Unfortunately. there is so much pre...Jerry,<BR/><BR/>I agree. Unfortunately. there is so much pressure placed on leaders in the church to follow the safe path.<BR/><BR/>I also agree that the how question is important. But I suspect that the practical answer is not as important as the "theoretical" answer.<BR/><BR/>In other words, the actual steps are not as important as the values and attitudes we need to have as leaders. If we get Pastor Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00219078094185232711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22617239.post-1159586608182716272006-09-29T22:23:00.000-05:002006-09-29T22:23:00.000-05:00We are in desperate need of missional leadership.H...We are in desperate need of missional leadership.<BR/><BR/>How does one guide a church into becoming missional? Thats a question we all need to ask and seek answers for.Missional Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03496760677134661370noreply@blogger.com